Especially in
Arabic Islam, where women can only show their faces to their husbands. However
it is also showed in Judaism, where women are not typically permitted to be on
the Bima in the orthodox sect nor are they permitted to have Bat-Mitzvahs
whereas
Any
compassionate person should be able to identify the inequalities in the major
world religions (Christianity, Islam, Hindu, Judaism, and some forms of
Buddhism). Sexism appears to be especially correlated with the words orthodox,
catholic, and fundamentalist.
Yes. Most
religions are also very old. Unfortunately, sexism has been almost universally
present throughout history and geography. And the religions swept this into
their practices because it was so prevalent. The problem is, religions are
reluctant to change, so old practices are difficult to get rid of.
Yes,
Christianity teaches tha no woman can teach or have authority. It also teaches
to kil wome who aren't virgins on thier wedding night.
World
religions are sexist. If u think about it why was eve made out of Adam why
couldn't be the other way round. Also why was Eve tempted by the apple to then
tell Adam to eat it are they trying to tell us that women are evil and need to
be controlled
Bible:
1 Corinthians
14:34 - 35
34. Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And
if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.
Colossians
3:18
18. Wives,
submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
“I do
not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be
silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
“Do
not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)
“So
the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and
abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the
woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the
door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and
opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay
his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the
threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then
the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)
Tell me
that's not sexist!
Read any
"holy" book at all. Most religions are built on sexist principles.
giving you the stank eye, Abram
And this is a
wrong that needs to be corrected. We are all equal.
Feminism was
engineered by the Rockefellers to control American society.
Feminism Was
Created To Destabalize Society - Aaron Russo Interview
The only
reasons I disagree are that women have made great strides in the religious
community through the years. There are many ministers, pastors, priests that
now enjoy the full mantle of the churches offerings. On the other hand women
have not made as many strides in the orthodox religions with the exceptions of
very minor roles in some. Most religious literature written in the days BC and
AD portrayed women only as secondary to the male. While that will always remain
the same, we do enjoy continued freedom in many areas as women and as gay
people make their impact felt in those spheres.
Religion is
not sexist. It simply preaches that a man and woman have different roles in
life. People always quote for example that a muslim wife must obey her husband.
When in reality, it says that a husband is the leader of the home. It is his
job to go out and provide for his family. It is her job to watch over the children
and the home. In return, he is OBLIGATED to fulfill her every need/want within
his means. People just sort of leave that part out.
In short, it
is not the religion that is sexist. It is the people of these religions that
misquote and distort these religions for their own gain.
You have to
remember the times these religions were created. they 're created during a time
where women's roles were already defined. The religions just kept on it with
the times, they didn't make any assertions that weren't already mainstream.
Such as the
Old Testament referring to how a woman is tempted by the apple, while the MAN
is tempted by the woman. It was making the obvious psychological analysis that
a woman can easily control a man with her body. that analysis was acceptable
back then because it was obvious. nowadays though , gender psychology is
unacceptable (unless it's trying to figure out how to change men).
Are you
suggesting that women are more easily tempted into sin and that one of the
roles of man is protector of women? I whole-heartedly disagree in the validity
of either statement. Both represent an ignorant male perspective, negligent of
a women's point of view.
I raise this
question of sexual inequality to expose the weakness in modern organized
religions and dogmas that are being devoutly followed by both genders and have
been, from the time of their creation to present, controlled by men.
You refer to
a woman's sexuality as being the epitome of her existence? That's sort of what
it sounds like. Perhaps one could attempt to justify that when women were still
confined to the home or before the sexual revolution, but since then, many of
us have made great strides in overcoming our visual worth . Check out that link
for some more ideas from Peggy Phalen on dissembling the woman's unconscious
image. I do appreciate that now you admit that view to be unacceptable, but
just in case you were curious...
I believe in
the beginning of your argument that you're attempting to defend sexism in dogma
from an archaic POV and if so, I can sort of try to understand your reasoning.
But then you go on to employ the "Strict Father" model as a way to
justify your saying man watches over the women of his life (mother, daughter,
and lover) because that is just the evolutionary and psychological trait that
we have. to be protective. we are more afraid over how the woman might get
hurt, so try to keep them safe. Which , and you'll forgive me, as a modern
woman, for rejecting that idea, is an incredibly misogynistic statement
blatantly placing women a step below men.
It isn't a
matter of one gender being "better" than another, but rather of one
being given more liberties, more opportunities and simply being treated
differently than the other. I agree that the sexual inferences and prejudices
were probably in step with the times, but I completely disagree with your
saying that men are meant to watch over women and keep them safe. Really,
what's that about?
Supporting
Evidence: Modern day sexism in religion. What about the present problems?
(www.associatedcontent.com)
When you say
you that men need to protect the women in their lives, who or what are they
protecting them from?? Other men? It is the inability of some (and only some)
men to view women as anything other than a sexual object that has resulted in
men believing that it is their duty to protect "helpless and
vulnerable" women.
Through
evolution it has been natural for the male to protect the female.
"You
have to remember the times these religions were created. they 're created during
a time where WOMAN'S ROLES WERE ALREADY DEFINED. The religions just kept on it
with the times, they didn't make any assertions that weren't already mainstream."
this is
disgusting. Not all women are like this so why should we punish every single
one of them ? plus this could also mean that the men were just thinking about
the wrong things, so if they got self control they could train them selves to
contain them selves;
"Such
as the Old Testament referring to how a woman is tempted by the apple, while
the MAN is tempted by the woman. It was making the obvious psychological
analysis that a woman can easily control a man with her body. that analysis was
acceptable back then because it was obvious. nowadays though , gender psychology
is unacceptable (unless it's trying to figure out how to change men)."
"there's
also on how Women are easily tempted into sin, which is why they should be
looked out after. Even in today's society, man watches over the women of his
life (mother, daughter, and lover) because that is just the evolutionary and
psychological trait that we have. to be protective. we are more afraid over how
the woman might get hurt, so try to keep them safe."
,
So, basically
the religions are behind the times, and really need editing?
It is unfair
that some people use religion as an excuse for sexism- and more unjust that
they think it's right & they can get away with it.
There really
is no excuse for chauvinism- and the Adam+Eve is, let's face it, less credible
than red-riding hood.
Yes, agree.
MOST religions are sexist but Paganism is non-sexist. See http://www.angelfire.com/in4/the_pak/bpb.html
for more information.
I agree on
that point, although paganism is a genre of religions, not really a religion.
Sexism is a
socially constructed concept, different than racism. It cannot be denied that
men and women have different roles in biology. Sorry, you just can't. Nature
built women to give birth, nurse, and carry babies. Even if you throw evolution
in there, women evolved broader hips and breasts to nurse and carry babies.
Science has proven that women hear a baby crying better than men.
Likewise,
women and men have different emotional makeups in general. These are all
biological realities. So, for a religion to believe that men and women are
suited for different roles is not "sexist"'; they believe it to be
practical and realistic.
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